Tee Mac
In this interview with GODFREY
GEORGE, a former President of
Performing Musician Association of
Nigeria, Dr Tee Mac Omatshola Isele,
speaks on the state of the nation,
among other things
How did you feel when you lost your
dog, Balewa, considering that you had
him for over 12 years?
I was somehow prepared that at over 12
years Balewa had reached the age limit
for an Alsatian dog (maximum of 13
years) but I always dreaded the idea
that Balewa would die and leave us
forever. I gave him first-class food,
vitamins, selenium and Hemp Oil for his
arthritis to make sure he got all the
minerals and vitamins for his organs.
But from Monday, July 12, 2021, he
stopped eating. Even milk and water
could not be retained by his stomach.
He was on drip on Wednesday (July 14)
and Thursday (July 15). During the
administration of an injection of
antibiotic with some valium he closed
his eyes and entered the other
dimension. I was shocked and
speechless because the moment I feared
had come – Balewa’s death.
What are some fond moments you had
with ‘Balewa’?
Every day, I had fond moments with
Balewa. Waking up I would see him
lying beside my bed and waving his tail
to greet me. He would sit beside me in
my bedroom while I worked at the
computer; he would sit beside me when
I was doing my two to three hours’ flute
workout. He would sit quietly in my
recording studio in the backyard and
watch and listen to the recording
sessions. He would give me a loud
hero’s welcome when I returned from
either a short shopping trip, or a long
trip abroad.
Balewa was incredibly intelligent and
obedient. He was the right dog for the
movie industry. He enjoyed going with
my son, Joseph, to the Adenuga studios
for the filming sessions of Papa Ajasco.
He would come proudly home because
he earned N20,000 and I would get him
some fried chicken to show him that he
did well. Balewa had a great dog life.
In some parts of Nigerian people kill
and consume dog. How does this make
you feel?
I think only a few misguided illiterate
Nigerians eat dog meat. Anybody who
eats dog meat and kills them for his
pleasure will reincarnate as a dog in
Calabar, Cross River, or Ondo State to
be eaten, too. There is Karma. You do
not eat your best friends. I belong to
Society Against Animal Cruelty and we
have closed down many local
restaurants where they serve dog-meat
soup. We give them a few hours’ notice
and close down those dirty
‘restaurants’.
The Petroleum Industry Bill has divided
Nigerians along two lines. Some have
lauded the National Assembly; others
are displeased with some provisions of
the bill. Do you think three per cent
derivation for the host community is
enough?
Of course, not. This is bad and will
cause a lot of problems in the oil-
producing areas. Nobody will accept
this. We have not even seen the
beginning of the problems coming up.
Fourteen years ago, I registered with
my Norwegian partner, Hemla, a
company with the Ogoni leadership
called “Hemla-Ogoni Energy Resources
Ltd”. We gave the Ogonis four seats on
the board and 20 per cent shareholding.
This is how you should treat the owners
of the land. If President Buhari signs the
bill with three per cent, problems will
start. Take my word for it.
What will this portend for the Nigerian
economy, which is largely dependent on
oil?
We, in the Niger Delta, are looking
forward to when the Hausa/Fulani lords
pack out and return the oil blocks to
real owners of the land. We need the
money to develop the Niger Delta and
not financing the lifestyle of some
political beneficiaries. I was involved in
the peace treaty negotiations. I got my
MFR for that 10 years ago. When the
youths were called to the million march
of Abacha to Abuja and they saw the
level of development, which was funded
from money from the Niger Delta oil,
they decided to start the war in the
Niger Delta, which lasted nearly 10
years and made Nigeria to lose billions
of US dollars, which could have been
used for developmental projects. They
do not mind starting again. But Nigeria,
being broke now, cannot afford the
Boko Haram problem up North, the
Fulani herdsmen palaver all over
Nigeria and another war in the Niger
Delta.
Do you think Nigeria should look
elsewhere for revenue as the Niger
Delta oil, according to some
commentators, is ‘drying up’?
The oil is not drying up. The investors
are drying up because they have lost
confidence in this administration. It has
become difficult to raise money
internationally for Nigeria’s oil
development plans. But we have to look
for additional income. I have been in
the solid minerals business since 1985.
As the chairman and majority
shareholder of Allied Minerals and
Cass-Cotan Mining and Processing Ltd, I
could write a book about the problems
being faced by the people in this
industry. There are no access roads;
Emirs and chiefs deduct money on
every tonne of solid minerals mined
and transported, despite getting their
share from the government. We have
long queues at the wharfs and
demurrages eating the profit; Boko
Haram and herdsmen are attacking and
killing workers on the fields, making it
impossible for expatriates to visit the
mining fields for fear of being
kidnapped. Nigeria is blessed with the
best, high quality copper, tin, zinc and
lead in the world. The solid mineral
sector alone could pay all the foreign
exchange bills for Nigeria.
What would you make of the recent
debate of the NASS concerning the
electronic transmission of election
results?
It is a tragedy that we have a rubber-
stamp National Assembly. They know
what they are doing. Don’t we have
ATM’s and the Internet all over Nigeria?
In some northern states MTN works
better, in some it’s Airtel. Where there
is a will, there will be a solution.
Nigerians are currently grappling with
really harsh economic conditions, with
the rise in the price of goods and
services. Where did we get it wrong?
We got it wrong when we voted the All
Progressives Congress in. Majority of
Nigerians fell for the propaganda that
there will be a change. There were no
development plans, not experts in the
right field. You cannot rule a country
without the professionals running the
affairs. It’s irrelevant from which tribe
or state the expert comes from, he has
to perform or is fired. When I need the
best pianist or bass guitarist I don’t
care if he is Yoruba or Igbo or Hausa. I
hire the best to do the job and pay him
well.
What do you make of the growing
insecurity in the country?
It is sad and unnecessary. When I
returned in 1970 to Nigeria as a young
man having finished my education in
Switzerland, I met a country which had
just got out of the civil war. There was
security; there was food; people had
jobs; musicians could travel without the
fear of kidnappers all over the country.
I used to go to my nightclub, Batakoto,
every evening and return home early in
the morning without police harassment,
without being robbed or kidnapped.
Nigeria was exciting, Nigeria was good.
Now you can’t go out anymore. Even my
sister, Justice Doris Okuwobi, the
chairman of the SARS committee, was
recently robbed in her car in traffic.
You have to thank God every evening
that you survived the day.
Some say, to solve this problem, it
would be better for Nigeria to break up.
Do you share their view?
I am first for restructuring. We must
get rid of that useless constitution
which is the source of all the problems.
The constitution needs total abolition.
Real leaders and constitutional lawyers
should go to the drawing board and
start totally afresh. No tribal, no
religious sentiments. Let us have a
constitution that is fair to all.
Then Nigeria should enter into a
federation of states where the Federal
Government only oversees. There
should be state police, state courts and
only federal courts for constitutional
matters. The president should be a
figurehead without powers. Without
restructuring Nigeria, this country will
collapse.
What is your take on zoning and the
idea of the President coming from the
South in 2023?
I don’t believe in zoning. I believe the
best man should take the job. I believe
that the Igbo should be given a chance
and they have a good and honest man in
Peter Obi. I always wonder why the
right people are not being given a
chance. Instead, they find an
uneducated man from the family of
those political Mafioso and he will steal
the place dry and bring more of his co-
travellers.
Are you worried about the rate at
which youths are fleeing the country to
look for ‘greener pastures’ abroad?
I came back to Nigeria after 18 years in
Switzerland because I knew my destiny
was here, where I was born. It’s not
easy to be a Nigerian. If the youths want
to go abroad to see and to study, that’s
their right, but they must return home
and develop their motherland. It may
not be easy, but staying abroad they will
always be foreigners.
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